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Indian Creek 'Cats
Updated: 30 Mar 2008
Here are the categories:
This site contains specific information about the 'Cat
series of markers from Indian Creek. This includes the Thunder Cat, Alley
Cat (II), Bobcat, and Puma. Most of what we have so far is based on the Alley
Cat or Thunder Cat, but it should apply to any 'Cat.
Unlike some other paintball equipment manufacturers whom I won't mention,
Indian Creek has some excellent information on their web site. You can
click their banner at the top for their web page. What I'll cover here will be what's missing from their
pages and could be helpful to other owners.
Always, always, always check the
Indian Creek troubleshooting section
before trying the suggestions here. Some of these ideas come from talking
to ICD tech support, and some are just ideas owners have come up with.
Everything here assumes that the user has a fairly intimate knowledge of
their marker. READ your manual. STUDY ICD's site. Get to know your maker
before you start blaming it for not working right. At the very least, have
handy, as we often refer to the "proper" names for parts of the gun.
Although almost everything has been tested, neither myself or any of the
other contributors to this site take any responsibility for what you do to
your marker or yourself with the information presented here. I wouldn't be
surprised to find information here that is complete BS. You have been
- Who makes the 'Cats?
- Indian Creek Design
manufactures the 'Cat line of markers, including the Thunder Cat, Alley
Cat, Bobcat, and Puma. They also make the Desert Fox and the new
Bushmaster 2000. We don't cover these guns here, but you can find more
info from the Links section.
ICD no longer markets the Bobcat or Puma, so the only 'Cats left are the
Alley Cat II and the many variations of the Thunder Cat.
- What's the difference between the Bobcat, Puma, and TC/ACII?
- The Thunder Cats line has many models now, but for this comparison
we're talking about the Thunder Cat Standard. We'll break out the Thunder Cats into
individual models in the future.
Thunder Cat or
Alley Cat II come with a 10" or 7" barrel, respectively, and the Versatile
Tank System (VTS). This allows the air source to be connected vertically
directly in front of the trigger guard, or angled off the back of the
gun body like a stock, otherwise known as back bottle.
also has the VTS, except that the front bottle sits a little
farther forward, and can be rotated to mount horizontally under the
barrel. The Puma also comes standard with the 10" barrel.
has the Vertical-Angled Tank System (VATS), which means that
the bottle is forward of the trigger guard, and there is no back bottle
mount. The Bobcat comes with the 7" barrel.
The Bobcat and Puma are no longer manufactured by ICD and were more
expensive than the current TC/ACII. Although the internals are almost
identical, the design of the body was more complex. More information can
be found at
- Where can I find an Alley Cat?
- The Alley Cat II is made exclusively for National Paintball Supply(NPS) resellers.
Any NPS store or mail outlet should carry it, or be able to order one for you.
- What's the difference between the Alley Cat and the Alley Cat II?
- They are the same except that the original AC didn't have the
vertical ASA port which the ACII does, and the AC had the M-16 grip
while the ACII has the Euro Grip. Functionally they're identical.
- Is the Alley Cat II the same as the Thunder Cat?
- Yes and no. The Alley Cat II is the same as the Thunder Cat Standard
except for the barrel. The TC Std has a 10" Muzzle Brake barrel, and the
ACII has a 7" standard barrel. Of course, all current ICD barrels are
interchangeable, so you're not stuck using just the barrel the gun came
The real difference between the two is that the ACII is a
National Paintball Supply (NPS)
exclusive product. That just means that you can only get an ACII from an
NPS dealer, while the TC is available from any Indian Creek reseller.
- I thought AC was an abbreviation for AutoCocker in the paintball
world. Why are you using it to refer to the Alley Cat?
- Because I feel like it, ok?
- Can I see the patent for the 'Cat design?
- If you REALLY want to, it's US Patent #5,497,758 and can be viewed at:
IBM's patent site.
We're not sure why, but on the Alley Cats we've seen, the patent number
is listed as #5,497,759. As far as we know a "Driving Apparatus
for a Diamond Toolholder" is a completely unrelated invention, and therefore
the number on the gun is erroneous.
- Here's our disclaimer.
- First of all, this is NOT the official ICD web site.
All trademarks are owned by their owners. Just about all of the graphics
are stolen. Don't sue us, we're just trying to help. And remember, around
here I, me, and my actually mean We, Us, and Our, respectively.
I don't want to sound like anyone's parent, but PLEASE be careful when
working with any kind of tools, especially when dealing with compressed
gasses. Wear safety glasses when grinding/cutting, and DE-GAS YOUR
GUN before doing any work on it.
If you ignore this advice and hurt/maim/kill yourself or someone else, it's not our
fault. If you're unsure about what you're doing, ask someone more
experienced. If you don't think you can do a job correctly or safely,
DON'T DO IT.
And by the way: By the action of reading and/or applying ANY of the material
contained herein you agree to release the owners of this World Wide Web site
and NextTime.com from any liability for damages, incidental or consequential, resulting
from your actions. So there.
- So who takes credit for this site?
- As far as the ideas themselves, they come from the heads of the page
editors, posts on the ICD discussion board and rec.sport.paintball, and
phone and e-mail exchanges with the ICD techs.